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FM MPX out and FM modulation measurement
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:17 am
by Sparktstic
Hi guys,
Couple of suggestions..
1/
Would it be possible to enable MPX output from the soundcard when in FMB mode?
Obviously, you would need a 196KHz soundcard to reproduce the MPX signal.
I work in Broadcasting and being able to feed an mpx signal from an FM off air signal or STL into a transmitter would be fantastic for emergency communications (temporarily replacing a faulty analogue STL receiver etc).
MPX out could also be fed to stereo modulation monitors for testing/analysis purposes.
2/
Please, please please... FM modulation / deviation measurement. Particularly for FMB purposes.
Deviation histogram over time and seperate pilot tone deviation would be amazing

Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation m3asurement
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 9:06 am
by Simon G4ELI
All notes, 2) is *very* interesting.
Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation m3asurement
Posted: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:11 am
by m3ghe
Used to do '1/' years back by stripping all of the de-emphasis components out of a band II tuner.
Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation m3asurement
Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:47 pm
by DaveB
m3ghe wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:11 am
Used to do '1/' years back by stripping all of the de-emphasis components out of a band II tuner.
I just tapped the audio signal from my Sony ST-311 tuners frome the appropriate pins of the chip before it went through the de-emphasis and used the signal to feed RDSSpy for RDS decoding.
A 16-bit 192kHz 2ch audio signal could be used to feed RDSSpy for RDS decoding - which might give a very small improvement over the excellent in-built decoder in SDR-Console on some signals.
Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation m3asurement
Posted: Mon Oct 19, 2020 5:41 am
by m3ghe
m3ghe wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 10:11 am
Used to do '1/' years back by stripping all of the de-emphasis components out of a band II tuner.
I am talking about 36 years ago.
Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation m3asurement
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:29 am
by Simon G4ELI
Sparktstic wrote: Wed Sep 30, 2020 6:17 am
Hi guys,
Couple of suggestions..
1/
Would it be possible to enable MPX output from the soundcard when in FMB mode?
Obviously, you would need a 196KHz soundcard to reproduce the MPX signal.
I work in Broadcasting and being able to feed an mpx signal from an FM off air signal or STL into a transmitter would be fantastic for emergency communications (temporarily replacing a faulty analogue STL receiver etc).
MPX out could also be fed to stereo modulation monitors for testing/analysis purposes.
So, we're talking 192kHz, single channel? I am now in the right frame of mind to add this an an Extra, the output will be created for the currently active RX frequency, so if you have three RXs in action then the output will switch as you change RX selection.
With this approach you can listen with SDR Console as normal and feed to RDS Spy or whatever.
Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation measurement
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:55 am
by G0OFE
That should work well.
Think it might need just a normal 192khz stereo channel..
If you just send out a 192khz unfiltered audio output from the demodulator (as HDSDR does, for example) to a specified VAC, that would do it.
One word of caution.. make sure you have a later version of VAC. I had issues getting an earlier (4.16) version to work, but once I updated, it was fine.
VBCable Hifi (
https://vb-audio.com/Cable/#DownloadASIOBridge ) is also good, and is free.
Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation measurement
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:24 am
by Simon G4ELI
G0OFE wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:55 am
That should work well.
Think it might need just a normal 192khz stereo channel..
If you just send out a 192khz unfiltered audio output from the demodulator (as HDSDR does, for example) to a specified VAC, that would do it.
One word of caution.. make sure you have a later version of VAC. I had issues getting an earlier (4.16) version to work, but once I updated, it was fine.
VBCable Hifi (
https://vb-audio.com/Cable/#DownloadASIOBridge ) is also good, and is free.
Well I don't see the point in stereo - this is the same signal as shown here, it's before demodulating. Mono 192kHz will be fine I believe.
Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation measurement
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:36 am
by Simon G4ELI
Assuming I get this going, which programs want this 192kHz via VAC?
I'll need to test...
Re: FM MPX out and FM modulation measurement
Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:38 am
by G0OFE
Simon G4ELI wrote: Tue Oct 20, 2020 11:24 am
Well I don't see the point in stereo - this is the same signal as shown here, it's before demodulating. Mono 192kHz will be fine I believe.
Had it confirmed that mono is fine.
Assuming I get this going, which programs want this 192kHz via VAC?
RDS Spy -
https://rdsspy.com