Where is this data stored? I deleted the database and it still appears as station over a thousand miles away.
Or is this an error in the RDS decoding or is WGIR in Manchester, NH sending bad data?
I notice some stations are correct, and others are wrong. even with a strong signal present.
See the arrow below:
73 Kriss KA1GJU
How to remove wrong RDS ID?
How to remove wrong RDS ID?
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Re: How to remove wrong RDS ID?
Looks like it's the station sending wrong data to me, unless Simon broke the RDS system (not very likely) - it's worked without a glitch here right through the summer Es.
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Re: How to remove wrong RDS ID?
i expect it's a program relay.
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Re: How to remove wrong RDS ID?
FWIW the USA PI Code is different - there's an algorithm to determine the station call from the PI code.
Re: How to remove wrong RDS ID?
I have a somewhat similar problem with stations being wrongly identified in the RDS database and display here in Europe. As far as I can tell it is down to the radio station not following the laid down standards for RDS identification.
So according to thee RDS display in SDRC - C201 Araz FM is from Lihuania - when it is actually from Azerbaijan. RDSSpy in the Basic RDS services window reveals it is using the ECC (Extended country code) E2 and also identifies the country of origin as "LT" the 2 letter code for Lithuania. If you check the link below you will see that the initial letter C is allocated to Lithuania, along with ECC E2.
Azerbaijan is supposed to use B as the inital letter and ECC code E3. I've actually revamped the list in a spreradsheet and sorted on a column with the initial pi letter concatenated with the ECC. There are 238 entries covering the whole world. If every station stuck to the rules there would be only three clashes 1. The Azores have the same PI+ECC as Palestine; 2. The Northern Territory (Aus) is the same as Iran, and 3. Denmark and the Faroes islands share the same combination
You only have to check FMList, or experience an Es opening to Europe to realise that a lot of stations make up the PI code to suit themselves. eg two stations on 88.5 use the pi code 8850, one from Latvia and one from Greece neither of which is supposed to use 8 as the first character of the pi code.
The other thing is - one is lucky if one finds a station that actually transmits the ECC code any way.
So although Simon has done a good job of identifying the country from the pi code etc - he is scuppered at the first hurdle. Oh well - I suppose it is only DXers who really benefit from the broadcasters following the rule.
http://poupa.cz/rds/countrycodes.htm
A final random thought - a good subject for a quiz round - "identify the foreign lorry" - as they generally use the two character country id code.
And a final final observation - Kosovo (RKS) is not on the RDS country code list.
David
So according to thee RDS display in SDRC - C201 Araz FM is from Lihuania - when it is actually from Azerbaijan. RDSSpy in the Basic RDS services window reveals it is using the ECC (Extended country code) E2 and also identifies the country of origin as "LT" the 2 letter code for Lithuania. If you check the link below you will see that the initial letter C is allocated to Lithuania, along with ECC E2.
Azerbaijan is supposed to use B as the inital letter and ECC code E3. I've actually revamped the list in a spreradsheet and sorted on a column with the initial pi letter concatenated with the ECC. There are 238 entries covering the whole world. If every station stuck to the rules there would be only three clashes 1. The Azores have the same PI+ECC as Palestine; 2. The Northern Territory (Aus) is the same as Iran, and 3. Denmark and the Faroes islands share the same combination
You only have to check FMList, or experience an Es opening to Europe to realise that a lot of stations make up the PI code to suit themselves. eg two stations on 88.5 use the pi code 8850, one from Latvia and one from Greece neither of which is supposed to use 8 as the first character of the pi code.
The other thing is - one is lucky if one finds a station that actually transmits the ECC code any way.
So although Simon has done a good job of identifying the country from the pi code etc - he is scuppered at the first hurdle. Oh well - I suppose it is only DXers who really benefit from the broadcasters following the rule.
http://poupa.cz/rds/countrycodes.htm
A final random thought - a good subject for a quiz round - "identify the foreign lorry" - as they generally use the two character country id code.
And a final final observation - Kosovo (RKS) is not on the RDS country code list.
David